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  [Riding Jezebel] Frame Slider Design and Selection
Posted by: Cableguy - 01-06-2018, 01:22 PM - Forum: Tips and Tricks - No Replies

Crash protectors, crash bobbins, fairing protectors or frame sliders, all these products ultimately seek to do one thing - protect your expensive bodywork or the essential and often expensive structural parts of your motorcycle from damage in the even of a fall or tip-over. The idea behind these is that during a crash or tip over they take the brunt of the damage, keeping your expensive bike frame away from the pavement. They were originally used by racers, but became a common street-bike aftermarket install to protect fairings.

Digging around it seems people are split on whether or not adding frame sliders to your bike is a good idea. There are times when sliders do help: In driveway tip-overs and low speed crashes, frame sliders can reduce the amount of damage. But even with sliders in place, bars still get bent/broken and bodywork still gets scratched.  The downside is if the bike has any momentum and that slider catches on a curb, pothole, dirt, etc... then it can start flipping, doing major damage. On the other hand, the frame slider will create a gap between the pavement and your bike's fairings, so if your leg happens to be trapped in that not-so-awesome place, you'll be grateful to have those solid pucks taking the bike weight off your leg as you skid. If attached incorrectly, the frame slider's mount can shift, causing cracks in the fairing. By the same token, if your bike's stock turn signals protrude outward, they too will crack your fairing when they slide, acting the same way a frame slider would (so get flush mounts!). You need to decide if you think adding sliders to your bike will be beneficial to you. Some bikes have no good installation place for frame sliders and can cause more damage than good (like ending up cutting into the frame, for example, with the FZ6). <h2><strong>Cost:</strong></h2> Cost of the frame sliders must be appropriate to the items that they are designed to protect. Price is not necessarily the best indicator of quality. Poorly designed frame sliders made of the nicest shiniest materials may not serve their purpose as well as well designed but less 'bling' ones. Remember these things need to be able to withstand a great deal of shock on impact with the ground, without transferring that shock to the bike frame. <h2><strong>Mounting Configurations:</strong></h2> The frame slider must be designed to mount securely onto a strong enough part of the motorcycle so that impact forces can be adequately distributed or absorbed. Here are some popular mounting configurations. <strong>Fairing Mounted Frame Sliders</strong> Sliders that mount onto the fairing with small fairing screws may provide some protection in a minor tip-over but offer very minimal protection in a slide. These sliders are not generally recommended for serious riders. They also often require drilling a hole into the fairing, and are more likely to cause cracks in the event of a fall. <strong>Frame Mounted Sliders - Direct</strong> The most popular and viable mounting option is directly to a selected strong point of the frame. Sliders with this design offer the most protection and impact force distribution. The installation of this type of slider often require modification of the fairing and in some cases like the Honda VFR800, as extreme as requiring the modification of the coolant bottle. For this reason, many choose the first or the third option as fairing modification can at times be quite intimidating. This option is the most popular for serious sportsriders, amateur and semi-professional racers alike as they provide the best protection for the money. One other thing to consider when choosing these types of sliders is where they will be mounted to. Many models of sportbikes offer several places to mount them, frame slider manufacturers all have their personal reasons for choosing the mounting location for theirs and many of them make that choice for the wrong reasons. An example is cost - a location that offers a two short bolt mounting location is cheaper than one using a long through the engine bolt choice. The former being a much weaker location. If you own an SV650 you will know what that means. Another choice is the use of a bracket so that cutting of the fairing is avoided - see below (Frame Mounted Frame Sliders-Through-Engine Bolts). <strong>Frame Mounted Sliders - In-Direct</strong> To address some of the concerns owners may have about modification of the fairing, some manufacturers have opted for a design that allows for the slider to mount onto an offset bracket that then mounts onto the frame. This offset introduces a whole new set of variables into the mix. Depending on the degree of the offset, impact forces now include amplified torque stresses which will be applied to the frame mounting points. Offset brackets will need to be of beefier construction, but not so beefy as to stay intact during an impact while severely damaging the frame mounting points. This is often the most costly type of slider configuration as most brackets require ingenious CNC work and design. In some situations employment of a bracket is a calculated risk, in others it is just not feasible. No cut sliders are attractive to most bikers so do your homework and ask the manfacturer questions before you buy them. <strong>Frame Mounted Frame Sliders-Through-Engine Bolts</strong> The third mounting option found only on certain models of bikes like the Suzuki DL1000 Vstrom, TL1000S, SV650 and Ducati models of bikes allow for use of the long, through-the-engine mounting bolt. This method is by far the strongest available as impact forces are allowed to be distributed over a much larger area. This is also the second more costly design as these long bolts are quite expensive to manufacture. The design must be structurally strong enough not to break off when encountering the various types of impact forces but not so strong that these forces would be transmitted entirely to and damage the considerably more costly frame mounting points. In other words you want to sacrifice your slider before your fairing and then your frame in that order. It's a delicate balance and there is no sure way to ensure that any one design will accomplish this desired goal. <h2><strong>Frame Slider Material:</strong></h2> The choice of material used for the frame slider should be a balance of the following 3 requirements: <strong>Abrasion Resistance</strong> - the material should be hard enough to be able to slow the bike down in a slide and not be totally worn down to the bolt half way through a slide <strong>Structural Strength -</strong> the material should be strong but not brittle and snap off too easily on impact <strong>Energy Absorption- </strong>the material used should have some energy absorbing properties but not be so hard that all impact forces are transmitted to the mounting points or fasteners (solid steel or aluminum materials are examples of non-energy absorbing materials). Most high quality frame sliders today are made of some kind of nylon or other for energy absorption and with aluminum inserts for strengthening of the fastening points. The range of nylon types, with different levels of abrasion resistance and "brittleness" used is also quite varied. <h2><strong>Fasteners and Components:</strong></h2> Quality of materials used, aesthetics and quality of workmanship should also be considered when choosing the right frame slider for your bike. Look for high quality anodized steel bolts. Black non-coated bolts will rust in a week or less depending where you live. Stainless steel washers between your steel bolts and aluminum inserts in the slider also reduce potential corrosion problems. Socket head cap screws offer the smallest footprint allowing for a thicker and stronger slider dimensions and are generally much more expensive then regular hex-head screws. Nyloc lock nuts where applicable are another added safety feature. True, these are all minor considerations in the overall scheme of things but they all add up to the cost of manufacturing. One last thing to remember is to always try to use some form of thread lock compound like Loctite and to properly torque the mounting bolts to the manufacturer's recommendations. If you're not sure check out our torque reference guide. <h2><strong>CONCLUSION:</strong></h2> Where does that leave you the consumer? Well, we all don't want to think about the day when we will be able to justify the purchase of frame sliders. The reality is that as long as bikes have only two wheels, you can expect them to fall over sooner or later. Frame sliders are one of the surest and least expensive ways to ensure some protection for the expensive or sometimes irreplaceable parts of your bike. After all some protection is still better than none. Think about broken rear brake levers, gear shifters or even worse - punctured radiators or coolant bottles, when you're miles from civilization. The rule is the same no matter what you're spending your money on - buy the best you can afford and don't be afraid to ask the manufacturer why their product is better than the plethora of other brands available out there. Any good manufacturer will be very clear about what differentiates their products form others so that you will be able to make the correct purchase decision. Read reviews and check out what other people riding the same bike as you have installed, why, and how they stood up to a crash. NOTE: <a href="http://ridingjezebel.com/2011/06/15/frame-sliders-for-the-2008-ninja-250r/">Read this post for info on choosing frame sliders for the Ninja 250.</a>

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  [Riding Jezebel] Lowerability of Popular Motorcycles
Posted by: Cableguy - 01-06-2018, 01:18 PM - Forum: Tips and Tricks - No Replies

<h2>Models with Rider's Height, Inseam, and Modification Notes (5'6" and shorter)</h2> <span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Models in RED</strong></span><span style="color: #000000;"> are linked to a detailed review by a woman rider! </span><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>Models in GREEN</strong></span><span style="color: #000000;"> mean that there is a photo in the <a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_charts.htm" target="_blank">Fit Charts</a> for you to see!</span></span> <span style="color: #ff0000; font-size: small;"><strong>To contribute to this ongoing catalog effort </strong></span><span style="color: #000000; font-size: small;">1) email your basic info for this chart to <a href="mailto:vtwinmama@vtwinmama.com">vtwinmama@vtwinmama.com </a>2) include a photo for the Fit Charts with you sitting on your motorcycle, or 3)  <a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews.htm" target="_blank">provide a more detailed review</a></span> <span style="color: #ff0000; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"><strong> </strong></span> <span style="color: #ff0000; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"><strong> AlphaSports Models      Rider Height       Inseam                        Notes</strong></span> <table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" width="100%" bgcolor="#FFFFCC" bordercolor="#6699CC"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="34%">GV250</td> <td width="23%">5'3" (160 cm)</td> <td width="13%"></td> <td width="50%">Flat-footed with no modifications, good balance, and great to learn on</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <span style="color: #ff0000; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"><strong> BWM Models             Rider Height     Inseam                        Notes</strong></span> <table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" width="100%" bgcolor="#FFFFCC" bordercolor="#6699CC"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="34%">Boxer 650, 800, 1000</td> <td width="23%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="12%"></td> <td width="51%">Last ones made were in 1996 and sidestand not so easy to reach, but they last forever</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="34%">Funduro F650</td> <td width="23%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="12%"></td> <td width="51%">Easily lowered</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="34%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_bmw.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">F650CS (2003)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="23%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="12%">25"</td> <td width="51%">There is a low seat option for this bike, but if you can't find one, Koubalink has a lowering link specifically for this model that takes the bike down 1.5 inches.  Firmly on the balls of my feet with boots on.  Heel inserts can be of some help as well.</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="34%">F650CS (2002)</td> <td width="23%">5'5" (165.1 cm)</td> <td width="12%"></td> <td width="51%">Feet almost flat on the ground, seat could be a bit lower . . . a great starter bike</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="34%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_bmw.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">F650GS (2006)</span></strong></a><strong><span style="color: #008000;"> </span></strong></td> <td width="23%">4'11" (149.9 cm)</td> <td width="12%">26"</td> <td width="51%">Factory lowered</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="34%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_bmw.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">F650GS (2005)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="23%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="12%"></td> <td width="51%">Factory lowered, boots with 2" heels, on tip toes with both feet down</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="34%">F650GS (2003)</td> <td width="23%">5'1" (154.9 cm)</td> <td width="12%"></td> <td width="51%">A light bike at 425lbs, low center of gravity, not flat foot, but no problem handling the bike</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="34%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_bmw.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">F650GS (2007)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="23%">5'1" (154.9 cm)</td> <td width="12%">28"</td> <td width="51%">ac; Factory low frame + factory low seat;1 inch Koubalink to lower the rear + raise the front fork by 1 inch ; Shortening of kickstand by 1.5 inch (work done by a welder recommended by local BMW dealer)</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="34%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_bmw.htm#F650GS" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>F650GS (2009)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="23%">5'3" (160 cm)</td> <td width="12%">30"</td> <td width="51%">Stock</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="34%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_bmw.htm#F800ST" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>F800ST (2008)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="23%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="12%"></td> <td width="51%">Balls of feet planted firmly, but not entirely flatfoot to the ground</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="34%">R1150R</td> <td width="23%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="12%"></td> <td width="51%">Seat lowered by 2", shorter set of shocks</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="34%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_bmw.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">R1200RT (2007)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="23%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="12%">29"</td> <td width="51%">Low seat option</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> &nbsp; <strong><span style="color: #ff0000; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"> CF Moto/QLink Models         Rider Height    Inseam                      Notes</span></strong> <div> <table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%" bgcolor="#FFFFCC" bordercolor="#6699CC"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="28%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_cf_moto.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">V5 or Legacy 250 (2007)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="20%">5'1" (154.9 cm)</td> <td width="10%">27"</td> <td width="42%">Lowered the shocks 1/2"</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="28%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_cf_moto.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">V5 or Legacy 250 (2008)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="20%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="10%">27.5"</td> <td width="42%">Boots with 2" heel</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> &nbsp; <strong><span style="color: #ff0000; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"> Ducati Models         Rider Height    Inseam                      Notes</span></strong> <table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" width="100%" bgcolor="#FFFFCC" bordercolor="#6699CC"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="33%">600 Monster</td> <td width="23%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="13%"></td> <td width="51%">Perfect height fit with no adjustments</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="33%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_ducati.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">696 Monster (2009)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="23%">5'1" (154.9 cm)</td> <td width="13%">28.5"</td> <td width="51%">tips of toes before mods, solid ball of foot after: tree dropped through forks by 1 inch, preload in back set to soft, seat cut down, customized with Shocktec gel pad, handle bars with more rise and pull back (rerouted cables)</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="33%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_ducati.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">696 Monster (2009)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="23%">5'3" (160 cm)</td> <td width="13%">29"</td> <td width="51%">Stock</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="34%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_ducati.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>696 Monster (2009)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="23%">5'3" (160 cm)</td> <td width="12%">28"</td> <td width="51%">Suspension lowered 1"</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <span style="color: #ff0000; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"><strong> </strong></span> &nbsp; <span style="color: #ff0000; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"><strong> Harley Davidson Models   Rider Height     Inseam                      Notes</strong></span> &nbsp; <table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" width="100%" bgcolor="#FFFFCC" bordercolor="#6699CC"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Buell Blast (2008)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">4'11" (149.9 cm)</td> <td width="14%">27"</td> <td width="51%">Low seat option</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Buell Blast (2005)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="14%">28"</td> <td width="51%">Standard seat</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Buell Blast (2006)</td> <td width="24%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="14%">25"</td> <td width="51%">Low profile seat yields seat height of 25.5 inches, can easily flat foot.</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Buell Blast</td> <td width="24%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">No modifications noted</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_harley_davidson.htm#Blast 2001"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Buell Blast (2001)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="24%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%">30"</td> <td width="51%">Flatfoot and easy to move around</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Buell CityX (XB9SX) (2005)</td> <td width="24%">5'1" (154.9 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">XB12SCG seat for lower sitting profile; low center of gravity (not top heavy) making for good bike control for short riders; considering Corbin seat for a bit lower seat height</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><span style="font-size: small;">Buell XB12SCG (2009)</span></td> <td width="24%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="14%"><span style="font-size: small;">28"</span></td> <td width="51%"><span style="font-size: small;">I haven't had</span><span style="font-size: small;"> any adjustments made for me. I wear thick-soled boots when I ride (made for backpacking, actually) and I'm not flat-flooted on it, but the balls </span><span style="font-size: small;">of my feet rest comfortably. It also probably helps that it's a light bike.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Dyna Fat Bob (2008)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'5" (165 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%"><span style="font-size: small;">Stock</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_harley_davidson.htm#FXDL Dyna Lowrider" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Dyna Low Rider (2001)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="24%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Changed to Drag Muller Power Clutch, changed to LePera Silhouette Up Front seat to move me forward 3" and its narrow so feet can reach the ground, changed shocks to 11" Progressives (lowered an inch)</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_harley_davidson.htm#2002 Low Rider" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Dyna Low Rider (2002)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="24%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Easy clutch bracket added, Wyatt Fuller pullback handlebars, Corbin Gunfighter seat, lowered with Progressive shocks in back and moved front fords in triple tree for 1" lower</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Dyna Low Rider (2002)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%"><span style="font-size: small;">added an easy clutch bracket and Wyatt Fuller pullback handlebars; changed the seat from stock to a Corbin "Gunfighter," which pushed me forward about 1". The Corbin seat is narrow and increased my reach to the ground; Progressive lowered shocks on the back and pushed the front forks up through the triple tree exactly 1" on each side.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Dyna Low Rider (2003)</td> <td width="24%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Used <a href="http://www.progressivesuspension.com/" target="_blank">Progressive shocks</a> to lower the bike and the rider loves it</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Dyna Low Rider (2004)</td> <td width="24%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Plans on changing out the stock seat with a <a href="http://www.corbin.com/" target="_blank">Corbin</a>"Close Gunfighter" to lower the sitting height by another 1.75" -- may not need new shocks by doing this</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Dyna Low Rider</td> <td width="24%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="14%">26.5"</td> <td width="51%">Lowered about 2", Barebones seat from LePera (1" lower) and added an inch to HD boot soles</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Dyna Low Rider (2003)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'1" (154.9 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%"><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: x-small;">11" Progressive shocks</span>,<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: x-small;">tailored the original seat (shaved sides down and pushed the back forward), rolled handle bars back just a little. Rider notes that she now realizes that the '05 883L took her more effort to ride.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_harley_davidson.htm#2007 Dyna Low Rider" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Dyna Low Rider (2007)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="24%">5'1" (154.9 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%"><span style="font-size: small;">Added Badlander seat, took seat to a local motor trimmer, and got quite a bit of foam shaved from front of seat to make it narrower. Changed standard 12" shocks with Progressive 412 11", to lower seat height.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Dyna Low Rider</td> <td width="24%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Change out rear shocks to 11" Progressive, although overall comfort might be slightly compromised</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Dyna Low Rider (2007)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowered 1" in rear with Progressive shocks; H-D Reach seat added.</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Dyna Low Rider (2003)</td> <td width="24%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Fits great.</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Dyna Low Rider (2008)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'5" (165 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Stock</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Dyna Low Rider (2007)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'6" (167.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%">29"</td> <td width="51%">Stock</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Fat Boy (2000)</td> <td width="24%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Originally a lower seat height and center of gravity; then lowered 1"</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Fat Boy</td> <td width="24%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowered 1"; 4.5" pullback risers</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Fat Boy</td> <td width="24%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowered front and back and Corbin close solo seat added; well-balanced and absolutely perfect!</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Fat Boy</td> <td width="24%">5'1" (154.9 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowered 1" both front and back</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_harley_davidson.htm#2010 Fat Boy Lo" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Fat Boy Lo (2010)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="24%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%"><span style="font-size: small;">I had 10" mini apes installed because of a reach problem, it's perfect now, I don't have to lean forward at all, I'm sitting in the motorcycle, not on top!</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Fat Boy (2001)</td> <td width="24%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Inexpensive lowering available</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Fat Boy (1999)</td> <td width="24%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowered, changed to LePera Barebones seat, but that seat was uncomfortable, so changed to Mustang wide solo touring seat with backrest. Perfect.</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Fat Boy</td> <td width="24%">5'4 1 /2" (163.8 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Sides of the factory seat cut down for about an extra inch of leg-to-ground reach</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">FLH Shovelhead (1979)</td> <td width="24%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">11" shocks, LePera BareBones gel seat, longer "Lo Rise" handlebars, wrap around oil tank so leg doesn't hit battery</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Heritage Springer</td> <td width="24%">5'3" (160 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Some seat foam removed for overall 2" seat position drop, may lower bike to better handle backing up into icky parking situations</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_harley_davidson.htm#FLSTS Heritage Springer" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Heritage Springer (2000)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="24%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">New handlebars with more pull-back and "dog bone" risers, Corbin Chose Solo seat, clutch assist and ergonomic levers that slant inward</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_harley_davidson.htm#Night Rod" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Night Rod (2006)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="24%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Not quite flat foot, but bike and/or shocks can be lowered</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Nightster XL1200 (2007)</td> <td width="24%">4'10" (147.3 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">No lowering as stock 25.3" seat height was enough. May try some 10.25" or 11" short shocks to get a bit more of both feet down.</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_harley_davidson.htm#Nightster" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Nightster XL1200 (2007)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="24%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Slight heel on boots and flat footed</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Nightster (2007)</td> <td width="24%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">No changes for sitting height, but may want new handlebar and easier clutch mod</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Nightster (2008)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Changed to Sundowner seat and added forward controls</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_harley_davidson.htm#FLHRI Road King" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Road King (2005)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="24%">5'4.5" (163.8 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">HD Heritage handlebar for comfortable reach, HD Reach seat to get closer to handlebar, feet closer to ground and more comfort</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Softail Deluxe</td> <td width="24%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="14%">24.5"</td> <td width="51%">Front end lowered</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Softail Deluxe (2006)</td> <td width="24%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Wears engineer boots and may shave foam at front of seat for better ability to duckwalk the bike into parking spaces; turn stock bars down a bit.</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Softail Deluxe (2005)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'3" (160 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Stock</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Softail Deluxe (2006)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'3" (160 cm)</td> <td width="14%">29.5"</td> <td width="51%">Stock</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Softail Deluxe (2005)</td> <td width="24%">5'3.5" (161.3 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">No adjustments for stock bike</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Softail Deluxe (2006)</td> <td width="24%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowered front and rear by one inch, installed Corbin Close Solo seat for extra one inch lowering</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_harley_davidson.htm#2009 Softail Deluxe" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Softail Deluxe (2009)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="24%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Changed to HD Sundowner seat</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Softail Deluxe (2008)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'6" (167.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%">30"</td> <td width="51%">Stock</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Softail Deuce (2003)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">4'11" (149.9 cm)</td> <td width="14%">27"</td> <td width="51%">Arlen Ness Lowering Kit front/back by 2"; Corbin Gunfighter Solo Seat; Jiffy Stand Extension for reachability; Swingback Handlebar for comfort &amp; control; Kuryakyn Brake Pedal..wider than stock for reachability around air filter</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Softail Deuce (2007)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'6" (167.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Stock</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Softail Heritage (2005)</td> <td width="24%">4'10" (147.3 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowered by 2" with Progressive shocks, added 5" risers (new cables to controls), new narrow solo seat, added metal block to rear brake pedal for reach, extension to the kickstand, and had 1" added to HD boots</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Softail Heritage Classic (2005)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">4'10" (147.3 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Progressive shocks, lowered 2 inches, 5 inch pull back risers, Danny Grey solo seat</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Softail Heritage Classic (2001)</td> <td width="24%">4'10" (147.3 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowered and changed to LePera Silhouette seat; checking into new boots</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Softail Heritage Classic (2002)</td> <td width="24%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Softail lowering kit on the rear only</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Softail Classic (2004)</td> <td width="24%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Front and rear lowering kit, narrower HD seat for better access to forward controls, feet are firmly planted on ground</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Softail Heritage Classic (2006)</td> <td width="24%">5'3" (160 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Feet flat at stops and solid flat moving a bit forward in the seat</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Softail Heritage Classic (2004)</td> <td width="24%">5'3.5" (161.3 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowered one inch; adjusted stock handlebars down from their upright position</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Softail Heritage Classic (2006)</td> <td width="24%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowered front and back and stock Easy Clutch is good.</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Softail Heritage Classic (2009)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%">30.5"</td> <td width="51%">Lowered 1.5"; may add a small pullback riser in future</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Softail Heritage Classic (2008)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'6" (167.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%">32"</td> <td width="51%">Stock</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Softail Standard (1992)</td> <td width="24%">5'3" (160 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowered rear and added narrower single seat, extended handlebars back</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Softail Rocker C (2008)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'5" (165 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Stock</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Sportster Hugger (2002)</td> <td width="24%">4'8" (142.2")</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowered front by 2" and back by 1.5". Doesn't feel top heavy.</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Sportster Hugger (1993)</td> <td width="24%">4'10" (147.3 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">New Progressive shocks (lowered it by 2") and lower profile custom seat</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Sportster Hugger (2003)</td> <td width="24%">4'11" (149.9 cm)</td> <td width="14%">28"</td> <td width="51%">Changed solo seat to LePera King Cobra; 11" Progressive shocks; front fork lowering kit</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Sportster Hugger (1994)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'1" (154.9 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowered 1 1/4"</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_harley_davidson.htm#XLH Sportster 883 Hugger" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Sportster  XLH 883 Hugger (1999)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="24%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Bought used, had Badlander seat, pulled buckhorn handlebar back closer</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Sportster Hugger (1997)</td> <td width="24%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowered rear and added narrower seat</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Sportster Hugger (2002)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'3" (160 cm)</td> <td width="14%">28"</td> <td width="51%">No notes</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Sportster 883 (2003)</td> <td width="24%">4'11" (149.9 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowered and Badlander seat installed</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Sportster 883 (1996)</td> <td width="24%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowering springs in the front forks (lower about 2 inches), 11" Progressive shocks in the rear (2" lower), White Brother's relocation bracket for the rear (extra 1/2") and custom seat from <a href="http://www.lepera.com/" target="_blank">LePera</a></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Sportster (2004)</td> <td width="24%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">The 2004 model's seat height is already 1.5" lower!</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Sportster 883</td> <td width="24%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Corbin Close Gunfighter seat brought her 2" down and 2" forward (and yes, the consensus is that this bike is top heavy)</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Sportster 883 (2003)</td> <td width="24%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Pull back handlebar, EZ Clutch (a must have), Stage 1 kit, LePera seat (9" wide, helps the short rider reach the ground, was on tiptoe before)</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_harley_davidson.htm#2009 Sportster" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Sportster 883 (2009)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="24%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="14%">30"</td> <td width="51%">Brawler solo seat</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Sportster 883 (2008)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'3" (160 cm)</td> <td width="14%">30"</td> <td width="51%">No notes</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Sportster XL883L (2008)</td> <td width="24%">4'9" (144.8 cm)</td> <td width="14%">24.5"</td> <td width="51%">Changed to 10" shocks, changed to HD Reach Solo Seat, men's elevator boots with 1/2" sole added; may be switching to Heritage handlebar to remove lean forward.</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Sportster 883L</td> <td width="24%">4'10" (147.3 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowering kit from Hellbent Hogs and HD Brawler seat</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Sportster XL883L (2005)</td> <td width="24%">4'11" (149.9 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Raised forks by 1 inch (lowers front of bike), Changed shocks from 11 3/4 to Progressive 11s, 2" pullback risers, feet planted on ground, bars where needed</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Sportster 883L (2005)</td> <td width="24%">5'0" (152.4 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Lowered the suspension and new seat</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Sportster 883L (2006)</td> <td width="24%">5'1" (154.9 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">10" custom shorty shocks from Lick's Custom shop in MA</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%">Sportster 883L (2007)</td> <td width="24%">5'2" (157.5 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%"> <div>Factory setup great . . . feet flat to ground and standard handlebar already in good pullback position.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_harley_davidson.htm#XL Sporster 883 L" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Sportster 883L (2005)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="24%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Could touch ground flat footed with original set-up</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Sportster 883L (2006)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'5" (165 cm)</td> <td width="14%">29"</td> <td width="51%">Lowered by 1" with Progressive 412 shocks, modified Mustang seat</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_reviews_harley_davidson.htm#XL Sportster 883 Custom" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Sportster XL 883 Custom (2005)</strong></span></a></td> <td width="24%">5'4" (162.6 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">Factory setup great . . . feet flat to ground and standard handlebar already in good pullback position.</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Sportster 883 Custom (2003)</span></strong></a></td> <td width="24%">5'5" (165 cm)</td> <td width="14%"></td> <td width="51%">No notes</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="31%"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_fit_harley_davidson.htm" target=

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  [Riding Jezebel] Tips and Options for Lowering a Motorcycle
Posted by: Cableguy - 01-06-2018, 01:15 PM - Forum: Tips and Tricks - No Replies

There are several options for lowering your bike so that you can fit more comfortably on it. After sitting on the bike and determining whether or not you need it lowered, here are a few tips and options for what you can do to give yourself a bit more height. &nbsp; <a href="http://vtwinmama.com/index.htm">From VTwinMama</a> &nbsp; <a href="http://cycle-ergo.com/" target="_blank">cycle-ergo.com/</span></a> is a site that has a selection tool for bike make/model and a stick figure seated. All sorts of adjustment possibilities, including a look at feet to ground. Be sure to read the reliability message in the FAQ section ... but this is a good tool to narrow down your search! <table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" width="100%" bgcolor="#FFFFCC" bordercolor="#6699CC"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="6%">1)</td> <td width="94%">Determine if you're leaning forward or reaching for the handlebar controls. If so, it may be shifting you in your seat and hampering foot to ground reach. Consider adding a pullback riser or checking into a new handlebar.</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="6%">2)</td> <td width="94%">Check if there is an adjustment to the rear shock(s) and front forks (it's called preload, the point of spring compression, and for lighter weight riders, can be brought down . . . just make sure the springs aren't bottoming out when you encounter bumps in the road).</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="6%">3)</td> <td width="94%">Buy or modify boots for a higher heel/sole. You'll want to carefully consider how your foot is placed in regard to the footpeg and lever, but remember that the lever can usually be re-adjusted to a different angle if the new configuration shifts your overall foot position. You can also consider adding an interior insert for about another 1/2" (or more if you buy a boot one size up, more insole, which may be useful).<strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/BOOTS_Article_Slate_pdf.pdf" target="_blank">Lower the bike or raise the boot sole height?</a> (Adobe Acrobat PDF file)</span></strong></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="6%">4)</td> <td width="94%">Change the stock seat to something that is either narrower (so thighs are not pushed out) or curved down to lower overall seat height or have the original seat's interior padding shaved down (you can add a gel insert to maintain tush comfort).</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="6%">5)</td> <td width="94%">Check for shorter shocks or find a shop that will custom shorten them, Alternatively, check into air suspension shocks which can lower/raise as needed.</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="6%">6)</td> <td width="94%">Lower the bike with an official lowering kit.</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="6%">7)</td> <td width="94%">Find an independent motorcycle shop and see if they can make a lowering link for you. It's a piece of metal (either straight or L shaped) with holes on each end. The shock is removed and the new bracket placed between the frame and the shock. This will lower the motorcycle. Alternatively, on some bikes, a new frame hole can be drilled so that when the shock is reattached, it will be at a lower position.</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="6%">8)</td> <td width="94%">Change out the tire to a lower profile (but talk to the mechanic about a possible impact on the speedometer reading).</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> &nbsp; &nbsp;

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  [Riding Jezebel] My Leather Motorcycle Jacket Short List
Posted by: Cableguy - 01-06-2018, 01:05 PM - Forum: Tips and Tricks - No Replies

Here's the chart I used when deciding what jacket to buy, what features were important to me, and where to buy it from. I looked for the lowest price on fitted leather jacket with CE approved armor. Being that I'm quite curvy (34-25-35) I was looking for a jacket that, on top of being safe, would flatter my figure rather than making me look like a monolithic block. I took some time to consider the features I wanted, and these were at the top of my list: <ul> <li>Leather, Black with white/contrast piping or highlighting for night riding, at least 1mm thick</li> <li>Removable Liner</li> <li>CE approved armour in elbow, shoulders and back</li> <li>Venting</li> <li>Inside pockets (at least 2)</li> <li>re-enforced stitching (double or quad) on stress points of high impact</li> <li>Adjustable waist/hips for tighter fit</li> <li>Neoprene collar for comfort and fit without stiffness of leather</li> <li>Zippers at sleeves for tighter fit</li> <li>Neck loop for hanging the jacket on a coat rack</li> <li>Reasonable weight/bulk (nothing too heavy or bulky)</li> </ul> <div id="Dave's Jacket Opinions_12337"> <!--[if supportMisalignedColumns]--> <!--[endif]--> <table style="width: 500px;" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="1293"><colgroup> <col style="mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 28013; width: 575pt;" width="766"></col> <col style="mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 19273; width: 395pt;" width="527"></col> </colgroup> <tbody> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl6812337" style="height: 15.0pt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20"><strong>Jacket </strong></td> <td class="xl6912337" style="width: 395pt;" width="527"><strong>Feature Rating</strong></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl6812337" style="height: 15.0pt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20"><a href="http://www.motorcycletoystore.com/sport/shop.php/motorcycle-jackets/leather/scorpion/scorpion-exo-women-39-s-elektra-leather-jacket/index.php?act=viewProd&amp;productId=3195">Scorpion EXO Women's Elektra Leather Jacket - MotorcycleToyStore<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></a></td> <td class="xl6912337" style="width: 395pt;" width="527">Good balance of safety and style, very adjustible in the waist</td> </tr> <tr class="xl7312337" style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl7112337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$329.99</td> <td class="xl7212337"></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl6812337" style="height: 15.0pt; border-top: none; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20">&nbsp; <a href="http://www.kneedraggers.com/product/662274/Spidi-RR-Ladies-Leather-Jacket">Spidi RR Ladies Leather Jacket - </a><a href="http://www.kneedraggers.com/product/662274/Spidi-RR-Ladies-Leather-Jacket">KneeDraggers</a></td> <td class="xl6912337" style="border-top: none;">Good balance of safety and style, not adjustable, best safety and comfort features</td> </tr> <tr class="xl7312337" style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl7112337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$589.95</td> <td class="xl7212337"></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl6812337" style="height: 15.0pt; border-top: none; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20"><a href="http://www.tapmoto.com/">TAP Motorcycle Gear Women's Jacket -&nbsp; </a><a href="http://www.tapmoto.com/"></a></td> <td class="xl6912337" style="border-top: none;">Good balance of safety and style, not adjustable, local</td> </tr> <tr class="xl7312337" style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl7112337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$329.95</td> <td class="xl7212337"></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl6812337" style="height: 15.0pt; border-top: none; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20"><a href="http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/2/49/22269/ITEM/Cortech-Womens-LNX-Leather-Jacket.aspx?WT.ac=Cart_Item">Cortech Women's LNX Leather Jacket - Motorcycle Superstore</a></td> <td class="xl6912337" style="border-top: none;">Good style and safety features lower price nice tapered waist</td> </tr> <tr class="xl7312337" style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl7112337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$215.99</td> <td class="xl7212337"></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl6812337" style="height: 15.0pt; border-top: none; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20"><a href="http://www.extremesupply.com/product/Motorcycle-Jackets/REVITLADIESRAVENJACKET.html">REV'IT! Ladies Raven Jacket - Extreme Supply</a></td> <td class="xl6912337" style="border-top: none;">Good balance of safety and style, might be wide in torso</td> </tr> <tr class="xl7312337" style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl7112337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$449.99</td> <td class="xl7212337"></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl6812337" style="height: 15.0pt; border-top: none; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20"><a href="http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/2/49/29909/ITEM/AGV-Sport-Womens-Venus-Leather-Jacket.aspx">AGV Sport Women's Venus Leather Jacket -  Motorcycle Superstore</a></td> <td class="xl6912337" style="border-top: none;">Good balance of safety and style - excellent reflective qualities</td> </tr> <tr class="xl7312337" style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl7112337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$269.99</td> <td class="xl7212337"></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl6812337" style="height: 15.0pt; border-top: none; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20"><a href="http://www.kneedraggers.com/product/662277/Spidi-Gara-Ladies-Leather-Jacket">Spidi Gara Ladies Leather Jacket - KneeDraggers.com</a></td> <td class="xl6912337" style="border-top: none;">Good balance of safety and style, not adjustable</td> </tr> <tr class="xl7312337" style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl7112337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$449.95</td> <td class="xl7212337"></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl6812337" style="height: 15.0pt; border-top: none; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20"><a href="http://www.kneedraggers.com/product/637972/Joe-Rocket-Aura-Ladies-Leather-Jacket">Joe Rocket Aura Ladies Leather Jacket - KneeDraggers.com</a></td> <td class="xl6912337" style="border-top: none;">Good balance of style and safety, might be wide in waist, buy canadian version</td> </tr> <tr class="xl7312337" style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl7112337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$332.99</td> <td class="xl7212337"></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl6812337" style="height: 15.0pt; border-top: none; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20"><a href="http://www.bikebandit.com/teknic-women-s-venom-leather-motorcycle-jacket">Teknic Women's Venom Leather Motorcycle Jacket - BikeBandit.com</a></td> <td class="xl6912337" style="border-top: none;">Good safety features, too shiny…<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7312337" style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl7112337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$269.99</td> <td class="xl7212337"></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl7412337" style="height: 15.0pt; border-top: none; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20"><a href="http://www.rubbersidedown.ca/inc/sdetail/467/417">Rubberside Down - The Cat Rubbersidedown.com</a></td> <td class="xl7812337" style="border-top: none;">Thick leather, good fit, workmanship not as refined as other manufacturers</td> </tr> <tr class="xl7312337" style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl7612337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$319.00</td> <td class="xl7712337"></td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl6512337" style="height: 15.0pt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20"><a href="http://www.kneedraggers.com/product/662287/Spidi-Elite-Ladies-Leather-Jacket">Spidi Elite Ladies Leather Jacket - KneeDraggers.com</a></td> <td class="xl6612337">Overall style looks good, armour good, leather thinner than other models</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl6712337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$579.95</td> <td class="xl6612337"></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 30.0pt;" height="40"> <td class="xl7412337" style="height: 30.0pt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="40"><a href="http://www.motorcycletoystore.com/sport/shop.php/jackets/leather/z1r-ladies-nectar-leather-jacket/p_2493.html">Z1R Ladies Nectar Leather Jacket - MotorcycleToyStore </a></td> <td class="xl7512337" style="width: 395pt;" width="527">Good style and fit looks good, concerns about the softness of the leather and abrassion resistance<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7312337" style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl7612337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$239.95</td> <td class="xl7712337"></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl7412337" style="height: 15.0pt; border-top: none; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20"><a href="http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/2/49/17971/ITEM/Shift-Racing-Womens-Viper-Leather-Jacket.aspx?WT.ac=Cart_Item">Shift Racing Women's Viper Leather Jacket Motorcycle Superstore</a></td> <td class="xl7812337" style="border-top: none;">Very nice look, likely good fit, no back armour would need an armoured vest</td> </tr> <tr class="xl7312337" style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl7612337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$199.99</td> <td class="xl7712337"></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl7412337" style="height: 15.0pt; border-top: none; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20"><a href="http://www.kneedraggers.com/product/609662/AXO-Ladies-J-Air-Leather-Jacket">AXO Ladies J-Air Leather Jacket - KneeDraggers.com</a></td> <td class="xl7812337" style="border-top: none;">No armour included, no back armour pouch, well ventilated, very linear in torso</td> </tr> <tr class="xl7312337" style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl7612337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$299.99</td> <td class="xl7712337"></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl7412337" style="height: 15.0pt; border-top: none; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20"><a href="http://www.revzilla.com/product/revit-ignition-leather-jacket">REV'IT! Ignition Leather Jacket - RevZilla</a></td> <td class="xl7812337" style="border-top: none;">Mesh/Perforated Leather on chest and back</td> </tr> <tr class="xl7312337" style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl7612337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$449.99</td> <td class="xl7712337"></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl7912337" style="height: 15.0pt; border-top: none; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20"><a href="http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=3569217XS&amp;catId=420&amp;leafCatId=42005">Powertrip Ladies Harlow Jacket - DennisKirk.com</a></td> <td class="xl8012337" style="border-top: none;">LAMB SKIN</td> </tr> <tr class="xl7312337" style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl8112337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$209.99</td> <td class="xl8212337"></td> </tr> <tr class="xl7012337" style="height: 15.0pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl7912337" style="height: 15.0pt; border-top: none; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="20"><a href="http://www.bikebandit.com/pokerun-women-s-wild-annie-motorcycle-jacket">Pokerun Women's Wild Annie Motorcycle Jacket - BikeBandit.com</a></td> <td class="xl8012337" style="border-top: none;">MESH</td> </tr> <tr class="xl7312337" style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"> <td class="xl8112337" style="height: 15.75pt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; width: 575pt;" width="766" height="21" align="right">$116.99</td> <td class="xl8212337"></td> </tr> <tr style="display: none;" height="0"> <td style="width: 575pt;" width="766"></td> <td style="width: 395pt;" width="527"></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> &nbsp; </div> <!-- ---><!--END OF OUTPUT FROM EXCEL PUBLISH AS WEB PAGE WIZARD--><!-- --->

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  Riding Jezebel (A resource for petite riders) - Look for [Riding Jezebel] below
Posted by: Cableguy - 01-06-2018, 12:55 PM - Forum: Tips and Tricks - No Replies

All posts below tagged with [Riding Jezebel] in the subject line originated from a web site (ridingjezebel.com, now offline).

Here's her introduction:

The adventures of a petite girl and her Ninja 250.

My name is Victoria, I'm a petite (5'0", 98lbs) girl and Jezebel is my 2008 Ninja 250. I bought her after completing a <a href="http://www.pacificridingschool.com/">motorcycle training course</a> and receiving my learner's motorcycle license  in early May 2011. This site is all about the research and modifications I've done to my bike to make her safer, and more comfortable for a petite girl to ride.

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  [Riding Jezebel] Motorcycle Stock Heights and Weights
Posted by: Cableguy - 01-06-2018, 12:49 PM - Forum: Tips and Tricks - No Replies

Choosing a bike when you're short can be a mindnumbing task. You need to look at the heights of the seats of the bikes you're interested in, and whether or not they can be lowered easily. <a href="http://cycle-ergo.com/">Cycle-Ergo</a> is an awesome motorcycle ergonomics simulator. You simply enter your height and select the make and model bike you're interested in, and it will show you the angles and how you will fit on the bike. Below is a list of stock heights and weights of some popular motorcycles.   Borrowed from <a href="http://www.vtwinmama.com/motorcycle_seat_heights.htm">VTwinMama</a> <span style="color: #ff0000; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">General Notes</span> Organization: </strong></span><span style="font-size: small;">by style and then ascending Seat Unladen height </span><span style="color: #ff0000; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"><strong> Seat Laden: </strong></span><span style="font-size: small;">180 lb rider on the bike</span><strong><span style="color: #ff0000; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"> Seat Unladen: </span></strong><span style="font-size: small;">No rider on the bike (* reflects 1" added to Laden Height as other data not available)</span><strong><span style="color: #ff0000; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"> Weight: </span></strong><span style="font-size: small;">* means dry weight (no fluids in it; add about 25 lbs. for wet weight)</span><strong><span style="color: #ff0000; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"> NIP: </span></strong><span style="font-size: small;">Not In Production</span>   <span style="color: #ff0000; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: x-small;"><strong><a name="Cruisers"></a>Cruisers</strong></span>
<table border="1" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#FFFFCC"><colgroup> <col width="319" /> <col width="76" /> <col width="88" /> <col width="73" /> <col width="64" /> <col width="64" /> <col width="64" /> <col width="64" /> </colgroup>
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<td width="319" height="17">Make/Model</td>
<td width="76">Seat Laden</td>
<td width="88">Seat Unladen</td>
<td align="right" width="73">CC</td>
<td width="64">Year</td>
<td width="64">Weight</td>
<td align="right" width="64">2008 MSRP</td>
<td align="right">2009 MSRP</td>
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<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Ridley Auto-Glide Chopper</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">24.5</td>
<td align="right" width="73">738</td>
<td width="64">2008</td>
<td width="64">460*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">20,750</td>
<td width="64"></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Ridley Auto-Glide Classic</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">24.5</td>
<td align="right" width="73">750</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">460*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">18,150</td>
<td align="right">18,600</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Ridley Auto-Glide Limited</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">24.5</td>
<td align="right" width="73">750</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">460*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">19,370</td>
<td align="right">21,900</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Ridley Auto-Glide Sport</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">24.5</td>
<td align="right" width="73">738</td>
<td width="64">2008</td>
<td width="64">460*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">18,250</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Ridley Auto-Glide Standard</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">24.5</td>
<td align="right" width="73">750</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">460*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">13,995</td>
<td align="right">14,550</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Ridley Auto-Glide TT</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">24.5</td>
<td align="right" width="73">750</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">460*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">17,650</td>
<td align="right">18,400</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Victory Kingpin Low</td>
<td></td>
<td>25.2</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1634</td>
<td>2009</td>
<td>651*</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">16,399</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Victory Vegas Low</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">25.2</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1634</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">651*/635*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">15,999</td>
<td align="right">16,299</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Honda Shadow VLX</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">25.6</td>
<td align="right" width="73">583</td>
<td width="64">2007</td>
<td width="64">455*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">5,499</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Honda Shadow VLX Deluxe</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">25.6</td>
<td align="right" width="73">583</td>
<td width="64">2007</td>
<td width="64">455*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">5,799</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Honda Shadow Spirit</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">25.7</td>
<td align="right" width="73">745</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">553/536</td>
<td align="right" width="64">6,799</td>
<td align="right">6,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Victory Vegas Jackpot</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">26.5/25.7</td>
<td width="73">1634/1731</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">658*/649*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">17,999</td>
<td align="right">18,499</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Softail Deluxe</td>
<td width="76">24.5</td>
<td width="88">25.9</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1584</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">724</td>
<td align="right" width="64">17,445</td>
<td align="right">17,449</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Honda Shadow Aero</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">25.9</td>
<td align="right" width="73">745</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">553</td>
<td align="right" width="64">6,799</td>
<td align="right">6,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Softail Rocker</td>
<td width="76">25.4</td>
<td width="88">26.2</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1584</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">691</td>
<td align="right" width="64">17,295</td>
<td align="right">17,399</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Night Rod Special</td>
<td width="76">25.2</td>
<td width="88">26.3</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1250</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">676</td>
<td align="right" width="64">16,695</td>
<td align="right">16,699</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Sportster 1200 Nightster</td>
<td width="76">25.3</td>
<td width="88">26.3</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1200</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">562</td>
<td align="right" width="64">9,695</td>
<td align="right">9,899</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Sportster 883 Low</td>
<td width="76">25.3</td>
<td width="88">26.3</td>
<td align="right" width="73">883</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">583</td>
<td align="right" width="64">7,145</td>
<td align="right">6,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="34">Victory Hammer</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">26.5</td>
<td width="73">1634/1731</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">680*/669*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">16,999</td>
<td align="right">17,499</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="34">Victory Hammer S</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">26.5</td>
<td width="73">1634/1731</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">673*/669*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">19,866</td>
<td align="right">18,499</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Victory Kingpin</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">26.5</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1634</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">676*/663*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">16,399</td>
<td align="right">16,399</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Victory Kingpin 8-Ball</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">26.5</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1634</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">670*/657*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">13,999</td>
<td align="right">13,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Victory Vegas</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">26.5</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1634</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">658*/642*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">15,999</td>
<td align="right">16,299</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Victory Vegas 8-Ball</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">26.5</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1634</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">652*/635*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">13,599</td>
<td align="right">13,799</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha V Star 950</td>
<td></td>
<td>26.5</td>
<td align="right" width="73">942</td>
<td>2009</td>
<td>612</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">7,890</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Honda Rebel</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">26.6</td>
<td align="right" width="73">234</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">331</td>
<td align="right" width="64">3,199</td>
<td align="right">3,399</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD V-Rod Muscle</td>
<td width="76">25.6</td>
<td width="88">26.7</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1250</td>
<td width="64">2009</td>
<td width="64">673</td>
<td width="64"></td>
<td align="right" width="64">17,199</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Dyna Street Bob</td>
<td width="76">25.8/25.5</td>
<td width="88">26.8/26.7</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1584</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">667</td>
<td align="right" width="64">13,795</td>
<td align="right">12,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Dyna Low Rider</td>
<td width="76">25.8</td>
<td width="88">26.8</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1584</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">672</td>
<td align="right" width="64">14,995</td>
<td align="right">15,099</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Softail Night Train</td>
<td width="76">25.2</td>
<td width="88">26.8</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1584</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">682</td>
<td align="right" width="64">15,895</td>
<td align="right">15,899</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Kawasaki Eliminator 125</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">26.8</td>
<td align="right" width="73">124</td>
<td width="64">07/09</td>
<td width="64">291*/320</td>
<td align="right" width="64">2,649</td>
<td align="right">2,799</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Kawasaki Vulcan 2000</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">26.8</td>
<td align="right" width="73">2053</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">750*/838</td>
<td align="right" width="64">13,699</td>
<td align="right">14,599</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Kawasaki Vulcan 900 Classic</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">26.8</td>
<td align="right" width="73">903</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">558*/620</td>
<td align="right" width="64">7,349</td>
<td align="right">7,499</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Kawasaki Vulcan 900 Classic LT</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">26.8</td>
<td align="right" width="73">903</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">595*/657</td>
<td align="right" width="64">8,649</td>
<td align="right">8,799</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">CF Moto V3</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.0</td>
<td align="right" width="73">244</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">392*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">3,499</td>
<td>?</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">CF Moto V5</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.0</td>
<td align="right" width="73">244</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">365*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">2,999</td>
<td align="right">3,299</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Kawasaki Vulcan 900 Custom</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.0</td>
<td align="right" width="73">903</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">549*/611</td>
<td align="right" width="64">7,399</td>
<td align="right">7,699</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">QLink Legacy 250</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.0</td>
<td align="right" width="73">244</td>
<td width="64">09/09</td>
<td width="64">361*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">3,250</td>
<td align="right">3,399</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha V Star 250</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.0</td>
<td align="right" width="73">249</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">302*/324</td>
<td align="right" width="64">3,599</td>
<td align="right">3,699</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Dyna Fat Bob</td>
<td width="76">26.1</td>
<td width="88">27.1/27.0</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1584</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">703</td>
<td align="right" width="64">14,795</td>
<td align="right">14,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Night Rod</td>
<td width="76">26.0</td>
<td width="88">27.1</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1250</td>
<td width="64">2008</td>
<td width="64">670</td>
<td align="right" width="64">14,995</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD V-Rod</td>
<td width="76">26.0</td>
<td width="88">27.1</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1250</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">670</td>
<td align="right" width="64">16,695</td>
<td align="right">14,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Kawasaki Vulcan 1600 Classic</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.1</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1552</td>
<td width="64">2008</td>
<td width="64">675*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">10,699</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Heritage Softail Classic</td>
<td width="76">25.5</td>
<td width="88">27.4/27.1</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1584</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">750/765</td>
<td align="right" width="64">17,945</td>
<td align="right">17,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Honda DN-01</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.2</td>
<td align="right" width="73">680</td>
<td width="64">2009</td>
<td width="64">595</td>
<td width="64"></td>
<td align="right" width="64">14,599</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Honda Shadow Sabre</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.2</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1099</td>
<td width="64">2007</td>
<td width="64">577*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">8,699</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha V Star 1100 Custom</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.2</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1063</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">578*/606</td>
<td align="right" width="64">8,699</td>
<td align="right">8,799</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha Raider</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.3</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1854</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">692*/730</td>
<td align="right" width="64">13,180</td>
<td align="right">13,790</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha Raider S</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.3</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1854</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">692*/730</td>
<td align="right" width="64">13,780</td>
<td align="right">14,490</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Honda VTX1300R</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.4</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1312</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">710</td>
<td align="right" width="64">9,599</td>
<td align="right">9,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Honda VTX1300T</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.4</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1312</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">748</td>
<td align="right" width="64">10,999</td>
<td align="right">11,299</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Honda VTX1800N</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.4</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1795</td>
<td width="64">2008</td>
<td width="64">804</td>
<td align="right" width="64">13,699</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Honda VTX1800R</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.4</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1795</td>
<td width="64">2007</td>
<td width="64">750*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">13,399</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Honda VTX1800T</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.4</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1795</td>
<td width="64">2008</td>
<td width="64">800</td>
<td align="right" width="64">14,899</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha V Star Custom</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.4</td>
<td align="right" width="73">649</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">474*/513</td>
<td align="right" width="64">6,099</td>
<td align="right">6,299</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Softail Rocker C</td>
<td width="76">25.3/25.2</td>
<td width="88">27.5/27.4</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1584</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">721</td>
<td align="right" width="64">19,494</td>
<td align="right">19,499</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Softail Fat Boy</td>
<td width="76">25.4</td>
<td width="88">27.5</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1584</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">714</td>
<td align="right" width="64">17,195</td>
<td align="right">15,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Honda VTX1300C</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.5</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1312</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">678</td>
<td align="right" width="64">9,599</td>
<td align="right">9,899</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Dyna Super Glide</td>
<td width="76">26.6</td>
<td width="88">27.6</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1584</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">663</td>
<td align="right" width="64">11,995</td>
<td align="right">11,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Honda VTX1800C</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.6</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1795</td>
<td width="64">2007</td>
<td width="64">734*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">12,899</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Honda VTX1800F</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.6</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1795</td>
<td width="64">2008</td>
<td width="64">774</td>
<td align="right" width="64">13,499</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Hyosung Aquila GV250</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.6</td>
<td align="right" width="73">249</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">342*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">3,499</td>
<td align="right">3,699</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Classic</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.6</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1470</td>
<td width="64">2008</td>
<td width="64">659*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">9,699</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Kawasaki Vulcan 1600 Mean Streak</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.6</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1552</td>
<td width="64">2008</td>
<td width="64">640*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">11,099</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Suzuki Boulevard C50 Special Edition</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.6</td>
<td align="right" width="73">805</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">542*/611</td>
<td align="right" width="64">7,099</td>
<td align="right">7,499</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Suzuki Boulevard C50, Volusia 800</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.6</td>
<td align="right" width="73">805</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">542*/611</td>
<td align="right" width="64">6,899</td>
<td align="right">7,299</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Suzuki Boulevard C90, Intruder 1500</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.6</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1462</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">665*/705</td>
<td align="right" width="64">10,499</td>
<td align="right">10,699</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Suzuki Boulevard M50 Special Edition</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.6</td>
<td align="right" width="73">805</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">544*/584</td>
<td align="right" width="64">6,899</td>
<td align="right">7,399</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Suzuki Boulevard M50, Maruader 800</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.6</td>
<td align="right" width="73">805</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">544*/584</td>
<td align="right" width="64">6,999</td>
<td align="right">7,199</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Suzuki Boulevard S40, Savage</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.6</td>
<td align="right" width="73">652</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">353*/381</td>
<td align="right" width="64">4,399</td>
<td align="right">4,599</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Suzuki Boulevard S50, Intruder 800</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.6</td>
<td align="right" width="73">805</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">443*/478</td>
<td align="right" width="64">6,499</td>
<td align="right">6,699</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Dyna Super Glide Custom</td>
<td width="76">26.8</td>
<td width="88">27.8</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1584</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">676</td>
<td align="right" width="64">12,995</td>
<td align="right">12,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Suzuki Boulevard C109R</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.8</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1783</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">787*/838</td>
<td align="right" width="64">13,799</td>
<td align="right">14,099</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Suzuki Boulevard M109R</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.8</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1783</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">703*/764</td>
<td align="right" width="64">12,699</td>
<td align="right">13,099</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Suzuki Boulevard M109R Limited Edition</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.8</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1783</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">707*/764</td>
<td align="right" width="64">13,099</td>
<td align="right">13,399</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Suzuki Boulevard M109R2</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.8</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1783</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">703*/764</td>
<td align="right" width="64">12,699</td>
<td align="right">13,099</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha Roadliner Midnight</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.8</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1854</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">705*/749</td>
<td align="right" width="64">13,880</td>
<td align="right">14,090</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha Roadliner S</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.8</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1854</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">758*/749</td>
<td align="right" width="64">14,980</td>
<td align="right">14,990</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Indian Deluxe</td>
<td width="76">26.7</td>
<td width="88">27.9</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1720</td>
<td width="64">2009</td>
<td width="64">773</td>
<td width="64"></td>
<td align="right" width="64">31,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Indian Roadmaster</td>
<td width="76">26.7</td>
<td width="88">27.9</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1720</td>
<td width="64">2009</td>
<td width="64">773</td>
<td width="64"></td>
<td align="right" width="64">33,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Indian Standrad</td>
<td width="76">26.7</td>
<td width="88">27.9</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1720</td>
<td width="64">2009</td>
<td width="64">773</td>
<td width="64"></td>
<td align="right" width="64">30,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Indian Vintage</td>
<td width="76">26.7</td>
<td width="88">27.9</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1720</td>
<td width="64">2009</td>
<td width="64">773</td>
<td width="64"></td>
<td align="right" width="64">35,499</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha Road Star</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.9</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1670</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">694*/743</td>
<td align="right" width="64">11,899</td>
<td align="right">12,390</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha Road Star S</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.9</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1670</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">694*/743</td>
<td align="right" width="64">12,599</td>
<td align="right">13,090</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha Road Star Silverado</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.9</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1670</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">712*/774</td>
<td align="right" width="64">13,599</td>
<td align="right">14,090</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha Road Star Silverado S</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.9</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1670</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">694*/774</td>
<td align="right" width="64">14,099</td>
<td align="right">14,590</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha V Star 1100 Classic</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.9</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1063</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">600*/628</td>
<td align="right" width="64">8,999</td>
<td align="right">9,290</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha V Star 1100 Silverado</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.9</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1063</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">629*/670</td>
<td align="right" width="64">9,799</td>
<td align="right">10,099</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha V Star Classic</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.9</td>
<td align="right" width="73">649</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">505*/544</td>
<td align="right" width="64">6,299</td>
<td align="right">6,399</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha V Star Silverado</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">27.9</td>
<td align="right" width="73">649</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">544*/583</td>
<td align="right" width="64">7,299</td>
<td align="right">7,399</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Sportster 1200 Custom</td>
<td width="76">26.5</td>
<td width="88">28.0</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1200</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">589</td>
<td align="right" width="64">9,895</td>
<td align="right">9,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Sportster 1200 Low</td>
<td width="76">26.3</td>
<td width="88">28.0</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1200</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">581</td>
<td align="right" width="64">9,695</td>
<td align="right">9,799</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Sportster 883 Custom</td>
<td width="76">26.5</td>
<td width="88">28.0</td>
<td align="right" width="73">883</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">591</td>
<td align="right" width="64">7,945</td>
<td align="right">7,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Honda Magna 750</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">28.0</td>
<td align="right" width="73">748</td>
<td width="64">2003</td>
<td width="64">505*</td>
<td width="64">NIP</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Kawasaki Vulcan 500 LTD</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">28.1</td>
<td align="right" width="73">498</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">439*/472</td>
<td align="right" width="64">5,049</td>
<td align="right">5,499</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha V Star 1300</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">28.1</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1304</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">624*/668</td>
<td align="right" width="64">10,090</td>
<td align="right">10,290</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha Warrior</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">28.1</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1670</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">612*/650</td>
<td align="right" width="64">12,649</td>
<td align="right">13,190</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Yamaha Warrior, Midnight</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">28.1</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1670</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">612*/650</td>
<td align="right" width="64">12,849</td>
<td align="right">13,390</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Suzuki Boulevard M90</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">28.2</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1462</td>
<td width="64">2009</td>
<td width="64">723</td>
<td width="64"></td>
<td align="right">9,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Softail Custom</td>
<td width="76">26.4</td>
<td width="88">28.3</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1584</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">703/765</td>
<td align="right" width="64">16,895</td>
<td align="right">16,999</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Kawasaki Vulcan 1600 Nomad</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">28.3</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1552</td>
<td width="64">2008</td>
<td width="64">772*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">12,999</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Triumph America</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">28.3</td>
<td align="right" width="73">865</td>
<td width="64">08/09</td>
<td width="64">497*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">7,999</td>
<td align="right">8,699</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Triumph Speedmaster</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">28.3</td>
<td align="right" width="73">865</td>
<td width="64">2008</td>
<td width="64">504*</td>
<td align="right" width="64">8,299</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Kawasaki Vulcan 1700 Classic</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">28.4</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1700</td>
<td width="64">2009</td>
<td width="64">761</td>
<td width="64"></td>
<td align="right">12,299</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Kawasaki Vulcan 1700 Classic LT</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">28.4</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1700</td>
<td width="64">2009</td>
<td width="64">805</td>
<td width="64"></td>
<td align="right">13,799</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">HD Dyna Wide Glide</td>
<td width="76">27.5</td>
<td width="88">28.5</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1584</td>
<td width="64">2008</td>
<td width="64">678</td>
<td align="right" width="64">17,620</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Kawasaki Vulcan 1700 Voyager</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">28.7</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1700</td>
<td width="64">2009</td>
<td width="64">?</td>
<td width="64"></td>
<td align="right">16,799</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Kawasaki Vulcan 1700 Voyager ABS</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">28.7</td>
<td align="right" width="73">1700</td>
<td width="64">2009</td>
<td width="64">?</td>
<td width="64"></td>
<td align="right">17,899</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="319" height="17">Kawasaki Vulcan 750</td>
<td width="76"></td>
<td width="88">28.9</td>
<td align="right" width="73">750</td>
<td width="64">2006</td>
<td width="64">483*</td>
<td width="64">NIP&lt;/td</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

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  Don`t buy the biggest bike you can afford!
Posted by: Bernie PRS Mechanic - 10-08-2017, 11:15 PM - Forum: Tips and Tricks - No Replies

BIG BIKE, SMALL BIKE, BLACK BIKE, BLUE BIKE.

I’m often asked ‘what bike should I buy?’ There are lots of considerations of course, like the rider’s experience, size, money available, etc. And then there’s what type of bike they like (regardless of whether it makes sense!), and the manufacturers they prefer. In the end, it’s the size that becomes the hardest decision. From meeting so many people through racing, riding, and Pacific Riding School, one of the most common mistakes I see and hear is buying a bike that is simply too big. Or one that becomes too big as your riding, age and needs changes.
One of the worst emails to get is from a former student that has quit riding because they have dropped their bike too many times. Or that they hardly ride because they aren’t comfortable due to the bike being intimidating. Well 100 extra kilograms can do that to you! You shouldn’t get sucked into buying a bigger bike because it’s cool, because your friends have them, or you just figure (or hope) that you’ll grow into it eventually. It’s simply a bad idea.
It’s true that all bikes weigh nothing while you’re moving in a straight line. That changes fast when you lose your footing on some sand, have to stop quickly, or encounter awkward corners that require quick changes in direction. Smaller bikes are easier to flick around. Twins or singles are great fun in the turns. Most 650 twins have more than enough power to take you where you want to go at highway speed. In fact, the dual sports can go anywhere, and have an added bonus of keeping your driving licence clean ;-)
When I tried the Suzuki VStrom a few years ago, I took out the 650 first, and then the 1000. Of course the 1000cc power was nice on big highway hills, but I also found myself speeding unintentionally. In the turns, the back roads, the 650 was the better bike by far. And guess where I try and do most of my riding? Small roads, fire roads, twisty roads. I believe any vehicle you buy should represent the bulk of your riding. Unless you’re rich and can have 3 bikes and 4 cars, you need to purchase for your 90-95% usage. I like lots of different bikes, but I selected the one that satisfied the biggest list of requirements.
Do I wish my bike had more power? Occasionally I do, I won’t lie. But my insurance is cheap, my licence is clean, and I really enjoy riding the bike. It might not be the greatest bike ever, but I’m not sure what bike that is anyway ;-) I find the bike effortless, and it does everything well, and that’s what I ask of it most of all. After 30 years of riding, and a little racing, my regular ride is a Suzuki VStrom 650.
It’s great to see manufacturers bringing back smaller bikes, but ones that are also cool! Almost all of them have a 300cc and 500cc bike that looks good, handles and stops well, and is reasonably competent on the highway. For the gifted, the experienced, there is an awesome selection of 650cc motorcycles to fit almost any needs. Don’t be afraid to start with a smaller bike, or trade down in size, you might be trading up in enjoyment!
Bernie

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  Don`t be afraid to downsize!
Posted by: Bernie PRS Mechanic - 07-15-2017, 10:53 PM - Forum: Tips and Tricks - No Replies

Don’t be afraid to downsize!!

We all know that size can matter. Well, to a lot of people anyway! I never had that problem when it came to motorcycles. I found smaller bikes more fun to ride, and more fun to race. As well, being an idiot disguised as an adult, big bikes and big power always had the potential to put me in my own harm’s way. Sad but true, the right wrist isn’t always connected to the brain as much as it should be.

Another factor that can change things is a shift in you’re riding territory/age/physical abilities. I think your motorcycle should represent most of your riding, not a once a year trip. As well, depending upon your bike, riding style or natural abilities, that 750cc bike that was so easy 12 years ago is not the same bike to you today! You adjust for many things in life, and your favorite ride shouldn’t be excluded. Heavy becomes heavier.
Stop!! Some of you bought bikes that were too big in the first place! Instead of giving up, dropping the bike enough to give up (or ICBC tells you to give up!), or just avoiding riding due to lack of confidence, switch gears by switching bikes. A 600cc sport bike seemed like a good idea at the time (or bad advice), but a 500 twin would have been so much more fun in the real world. And more comfortable in stop-and-go traffic. Easier, cheaper, bigger smiles……..

You probably know it well, but let’s refresh ;-) A smaller bike is usually cheaper to own. Insurance is cheaper if nothing else. Tires are generally cheaper. Tune-ups as well. They are easier to handle, especially when things go sideways. Better still, they are much easier to flick around, in and out, toss around, etc. Lighter bikes generally brake easier. Let’s tie that into the fact that as time goes by, your licence gets more important as time goes by. And let’s face it, all the reasons why small easy-to-ride bikes were the hot ticket to good times when you started apply the same way as your skills slow down a bit with grace and age. Okay, I’m still waiting for the grace ;-)

My current favorite bikes are the new crop of 500 and 650 twins. After 35 years of riding, my 650 VStrom will be all I need to have a great day of riding tomorrow!

Cheers, smiles for miles.
Bernie

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  Bike Ergonomics / Riding position of different bikes
Posted by: Cableguy - 05-26-2017, 03:48 PM - Forum: Tips and Tricks - No Replies

Interesting web site to show riding positions of various motorcycles.

Best way is still to sit on the bike yourself to see how your body sits and how comfortable everything feels.

http://cycle-ergo.com/

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  Article: 10 lane positioning tips!
Posted by: Cableguy - 02-02-2017, 11:48 AM - Forum: Tips and Tricks - No Replies

http://www.womenridersnow.com/pages/10_l..._tips.aspx

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